Are Americans just plain dumb?
March 5, 2008
Let me start off this post by saying this is not about bashing Americans. I’m sure we all have an opinion about the current state of the US and the War on Terror. But this post is asking something I’ve pondered before when I took a look at the New York State Regents Exam in History, with its multiple-choice questions accompanied by plenty of clues. Are Americans less well-educated than the rest of the world? And warning: there’s a bit of a rant ahead, so skip it if you’re not interested in thinking about whether contemporary society is guilty of shallow intellectualism.
I’ll back up a bit: my first introduction to the US and Americans was in the late 1990s, when I was asked by a US technology company to do a conference and workshop tour, talking about their technology and KM. I have to say I really loved the US, particularly Boston and Chicago. Would even consider living there if it wasn’t for the circus that is their immigration system.
What really stunned me though was this – over dinner with some executives in Philadelphia someone commented that Australians always seem to be so well-travelled (well, that’s because we live at the arse-end of the world as Paul Keating had a habit of reminding us and so we need to get off our proverbial butts to see anything). But it was the next comment that stopped me in my tracks: “so do you really have kangaroos hopping down the streets of Sydney and what’s it like to have a Queen as your President?“.
I took a few moments to see whether this question was a joke at my expense. And did he mean THE Queen or a queen? I had visions of seeing our Prime Minister (note to Americans: we don’t have a President) participating in the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras!
Over the next month, I travelled through Texas, Virginia, New York, Florida and LA and I started to notice a pattern. The news on TV talked only of America and US events. Hardly a word was uttered about international news. But then of course 9/11 hit the US and forced Americans to lift their collective heads up and notice that there is a world beyond the borders of the Land of the Free.
So it was interesting to read about a new book by Susan Jacoby, The Age of American Unreason, which bemoans the current state of American “culture”. Jacoby is 62 years old but I don’t think she can be accused of being a fossil blaming young people for an apparent demise in intellectualism.
I’m sure you’ve all seen this cringe-worthy video on YouTube of Kellie Pickler (of American Idol 15 minutes of fame). Competing against a 5th grader, she was asked: “Budapest is the capital of what European country?“. Her reply? “I thought Europe was a country“.
Is this an isolated case or are we living in such an age of commercialism and obsession with self and reality TV that there is a backlash against the acquiring of basic knowledge? A varied intellectual life is the very basis of a functioning democracy. But 6 out of 10 young Americans didn’t know where Iraq was on the map when National Geographic conducted a poll in 2006 and recently an American I met confused Australia with Austria (okay, I can see the similarity, we Australians love to yodel too!).
Have Americans given up on the Enlightenment values of rationality, pursuit of the scientific method and encouragement of diversity of thought and argument? Are Americans now a society being kept amused and stupefied by infotainment; determined to weed out “the different”; and demonstrating an antipathy towards science from the fundamentalist religious right?
Jacoby’s book brings to mind Richard Hofstadter’s tour de force, Anti-Intellectualism in American Life, published in 1963. I read it during my university days and if I remember correctly, Hofstadter highlighted three pillars of anti-intellectualism — evangelical religion, practical-minded business and the populist political style. Despite the rise of the notion of expertise enshrined in knowledge management and despite the expertise of technology geeky types, I think the three pillars are still firmly rooted in America.
Anti-intellectualism can be seen everywhere: the decline of educational standards; the corporatisation of universities; suspicion of science and medicine, leading to the rise of alternative medicine and so on. We have “expert intellectuals” (consultants), not “critical intellectuals”, schooled in the art of argument, debate and the ability to reason. We have specialists rather than expert generalists.
The postmodernist mood following WWII reacted to, if not rejected, the assumed certainty of scientific efforts to explain reality. So no one explanation is valid for all groups, cultures or races. Reality is constructed individually through our own interpretation of concrete experiences. The abstract is rejected in favour of the concrete.
This is why today’s mantra of “well, I’m entitled to my own opinion” is so sacrosanct. This is why reality TV shows reign supreme – they’re about real world experiences of grappling with weight issues; surviving isolation on some Pacific island; racing around the world looking for clues to the next destination or what task to perform.
This is why you have an American President who is better known for his comic gaffes and lack of curiosity about the world than for serious intellectualism. It is why we tend to speak or advertise in slogans and it is why our society is one of glibness and self-absorption. It is why popular science tries to pass itself off as serious science and it is why we are critical of each other rather than providing a critique. It is why business is obsessed with the bottom line, efficiency and productivity because serious intellectual pursuit requires inquiry and reflection (aka time wasters). And so we have closed minds.
Okay I realise I’m on a rant here. I’m not saying that Americans are the dumbest people on the planet. I could sling all of the above at Australia. And I think the internet, our obsession with iPods, YouTube, MySpace and so on has ushered in an age of solipsism.
What do you think?
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Curtis | March 5, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Those executives in Philadelphia could have used with this blog entry I think you might enjoy, “20 Things that culturally defines Australia” —http://www.the-trukstop.com/articles/2008/australia.html
I have to tell you, it makes me sad that the first image isn’t a reality…
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thinkingshift | March 7, 2008 at 5:06 am
Curtis
LOL! great blog link and thx for the sharing.
Kim
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Grad Student | March 10, 2008 at 5:17 am
Great post thinkingshift, I have a couple random thoughts about your essay.
1) Are you falling for a caricature of Americans seen in shows like the Simpsons? Is it possible that Americans with an average (mediocre) education are just as dumb as average citizens in other first world countries?
2) You might be overreaching a bit when you place (at least part of) the blame on that extremely nebulous overused (okay so I use it too much also) word, “postmodernism.” After your paragraph starting with, “the postmodernist mood,” you have a bunch of “this is why” statements. I assume you’re using the postmodern condition to explain all the negatives you list after that paragraph, but there may be some more banal explanations for why our– yes I’m one of them– president can’t seem to master basic English grammar.
In the end though, I think you’re correct. The American culture could use some drastic improvements.
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thinkingshift | March 12, 2008 at 9:17 am
Well grad student good to hear from you. Would be interested to hear why you think I’m over-reaching by raising postmodernism (yep, agree it’s a used and abused term) – however, does it not go some way towards explaining the rejection of the scientific narrative & its replacement with a myriad of narratives, one of which is the “me as individual and I’m right” narrative? And so mediocrity counts for just as much as intellectualism. Glibness & self-absorption count as much as caring for others and communal spirit.
But as I said in the post, the same can be slung at Australia.
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biosios | March 13, 2008 at 8:03 am
Aussies are no position whatsoever to criticise America; Hofstadter’s criticisms apply here too, and forget about this post-modernism bollocks; it has little to do with the issue. these problems are endemic to the anglo saxon world, esp in the ‘new world’. go and do some proper research. Australia is a country full of small men, with small ideas. American is also a country full of small men, but due to its relative size, it appears they have big men. both countries place great reliance on the ‘efficiency principle’, and it has affected almost every major sector of social/political/economic, and even ’spiritual’ life. over specialisation creates an ignorant society. the difference between the ‘new world’ countries, and that of most of first world Europe, at least in terms of general knowledge, worldview, and ethos, is considerable.
forgot postmodernism. Weber provides more insights into these problems.
later
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thinkingshift | March 13, 2008 at 9:07 am
and you are from where biosios? if you read the post carefully, I said that what I was saying applied to Australia too. I think if you researched postmodernism you might find it has quite a bit to do with the issue IMHO.
Perhaps you’d like to enlighten us re your Weber comment? (don’t take this question to mean I haven’t read Weber: I have).
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biosios | March 13, 2008 at 10:04 am
postmodernism is a load of bullshit. most of the theories are rubbish. i understand the problem of relativism you are getting at, but that’s not specifically a ‘postmodern’ problem; it has been around for ages. you are definitely correct in identifying it as one of _the_ modern problems now, especially in the absence of a true elitist culture, but even Nietzche was concerned about it in his day.
if you have read Weber why do i need to explain my position?
Weber’s point about rationality, and how it relates to efficiency, is part of the reason we are in the mess we are in now. Marx got the first part right, about the dangers of rigid specialisation in work and life, but Weber took it further by explaining how this ‘iron cage of subordination’ blinds us to the possibilities of a world outside of the one we have–both consciously and unconsciously–created. once we can no longer agree on values, and once they become drained of all substantive meaning and purpose, all that’s really left is the market, and Australia and America are both work oriented cultures. any idea that is not conducive to hard work is usually feared or dismissed. this obviously has massive(i.e negative) effects on the development of ‘culture’, which is practically non-existent in Australia. so if we Aussies are ignorant and stupid, it’s because all these ‘administrative techniques’ have seriously undermined our ability to think, eroded individuality, and turned us into conformist, consumerist, economic drones.
the only postmodern thinker that came close to addressing this was Foucault, but he didn’t really consider himself a postmodernist, plus his ideas about power are sometimes fanciful and based on his own unique brand of intellectual dishonesty; Foucault was (rightfully) accused of factual distortion.
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thinkingshift | March 13, 2008 at 10:17 am
well, we’re not in disagreement biosios and I asked you to talk about Weber because I’m interested to hear what you have to say and I’m sure other TS readers will too. Check out some of my previous posts where I rant and rave about the consumerist/materialistic society that we are in the grip of. Individualism has been lost.
The only part I don’t agree with you on is the postmodern condition. I don’t think it’s rubbish.
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biosios | March 13, 2008 at 1:12 pm
^^ok, i’ll check out your other posts sometime on the weekend.
i take it your familiar with Donald Horne? it’s really quite startling to think how accurate his portrayal of Australian life was in the 60’s, and how relevant it is today, forty years on. ‘The Lucky Country’ ought to be mandatory reading in secondary schools across the country.
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thinkingshift | March 13, 2008 at 7:13 pm
I thought the Lucky Country WAS mandatory reading!! damn shame if it’s not.
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Luke Naismith | March 23, 2008 at 10:23 am
Hi there Kim
Nice to bash the seppos – they are such an easy target!
One of my favourite books on the topic is Why Do People Hate America by Zia Sardar
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-Do-People-Hate-America/dp/184046383X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206267701&sr=8-1
And the answer to your title of this post is – not dumb, just ignorant. But maybe I am being too nice
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thinkingshift | March 23, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Hi there Luke
I’ve read Sardar’s book – it’s good isn’t it. Possibly you are being too nice
Kim
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eric | July 20, 2008 at 5:50 am
As an educator in field of higher education for the last twenty years, I have discussed this very question with many of my colleagues. I have come to my own conclusion, that, yes indeed, Americans on average have gotten dumber over the last several decades. Many of my colleagues vehemently disagree. I have listened to their arguments, and I still reach the same conclusion. I can not help but think that the American welfare system has essentially eroded the nuclear family structure, replacing fathers, and allowing, even encouraging, the less intelligent to reproduce at a much higher rate than would otherwise have happened. Mix in so called no-fault divorce, the feminist takeover of the family court system, and an open border that allows any criminal to walk across the border and the conditions are perfect to allow the less intelligent to thrive. The once mighty and noble United States is now just another third world country living off its laurels. Soon, nobody will remember its accomplishments and contributions and we will be blamed for every problem facing the world. Hell, we already are blamed for everything. It’s sad, but every empire eventually falls.
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David | September 14, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Yesterday I went to Walmart, as I walked around I began noticing other people, noticing who these people were shopping at Walmart. It was like attending a hillbilly convention, there were more fat people there then a Jenny Craig all you can eat festival. People were so fat and lazy they had electric carts to haul their fat carcass around the store, they would wait for 10 minutes to park up front rather then park 50 feet further into the parking lot. They would leave their carts right next to other peoples cars, instead of walking 20 feet to put the cart away. I’m sorry, but Americans are the dumbest people on planet earth, their stupidity is beyond all understanding or belief…….
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Jake | December 15, 2008 at 3:31 am
Jesus Christ they are so dumb, they really are I live near the boarder of Canada and the states and honestly half of them don’t even know where Canada is RIGHT NEAR THE DAMN BOARDER and the other half HAVN”T EVEN HEARD OF THE COUNTRY….and the ones that do, think that as soon as you cross the boarder it’s all of a sudden a baron winter wasteland, even in the mid june. God.
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Brian | August 21, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Do you realize you posted this on the internet. And who invented the internet? Oh yeah… Americans. Here is a list of inventions by Americans: Air Conditioning, airplanes, the atomic bomb, telephones, and color televisions. And the computer you used to type this was also probably designed by Americans.
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thinkingshift | August 21, 2009 at 10:18 pm
no one would dispute Brian that Americans have invented things. The issue is the current state of education in the US (and Australia: I have blogged about the dumbing down in Aust too). I would, however, dispute your list of American inventions – I think you will find the first “mechanical” computer was the brainchild of Charles Babbage (British); the telephone being Alexander Graham Bell who was born in Scotland. The invention of the airplane is controversial – some say it was invented by Alberto Santos Dumont (Brazilian), others will say Leonardo da Vinci who made the first real study of flight in the 1400s. He of course was born in Florence.
I would say that the notion of air-conditioning was actually invented by the Romans who cooled their buildings with circulated aqueduct water. As for the internet, that’s controversial too – any of the following could have invented it: J.C.R Licklider, Vannevar Bush or Norbert Wiener (all American); Paul Baran (Polish) or Donald Davies (Welsh) – who were co-developers of packet switching. However, none of us would be surfing the internet without Sir Tim Berners-Lee (British) who invented the World Wide Web.
I think you will find that the concept of television (and a patent was produced in 1922) is the brainchild of Edwin Belin, an Englishman.
As for inventions by Americans – I will give you the computer mouse by Douglas Engelbart. The invention of the atomic bomb (not something I’d wish to lay claim to) was actually a collaborative effort (known as the Manhattan Project) between physicists and mathematicians from the UK, the US, Canada and Europe.
And you might wish to consider that the US is a melting pot of nationalities, all of whom have made your country (and mine) what it is today.
The issue is the future: is the US (and Aust) education system dumbing us down? The issue is not who invented what, when and how.
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truthsux | January 1, 2009 at 1:36 am
americans are just plain dumb…their brain database consists of enough info to get them to survive and thats it….no wonder everyone fucking hates us…stay in the states dumb ass americans
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usa add | January 7, 2009 at 11:09 am
can list so many things wrong with their attitudes . they cannot pick up after themselves , if it something they wore it stays where it came off them and that’s usually the floor . putting down a toilet seat doesn’t compute to them . they smell like they bathe in scents to cover bad B O .
Manners period lack , especially saying thanks for something free they received.
if the sink has two basins both are full , being truly humble doesn’t fit . if they screwed up be prepared for it to happen again and again . if they can guilt you into doing it for them then they will follow that train of thought .
if it makes them look good going down the road , emotionally shallow , intense thought for others also doesn’t fit for them , just plain common politeness they lack , similar to the french
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Andrew | March 3, 2009 at 2:28 am
As an American I would have to agree with most of your comments, the average American is quit dumb. It is an epidemic.
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Charlotta | May 24, 2009 at 4:02 am
I have lived in US for a year now, and the difference from other countries is huge. In Finland we graduate high school when we are 15-16, here when you are 18-19, as you well know…… And still we were so much more mature and intelligent at that time than what american students are now; people have no possible respect for anyone or anything, horrible lack of common sense, no responsibility etc. I could go on forever. So to me it makes perfectly sense that americans really are as dumb as said, what else can they become when they still at the age of young adults have no idea about ANYTHING.
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Rich | August 9, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Hi.
Finland has the highest rated high schools in the world. When americans try to copy the reason for this, our educators don’t get it: respect for education is lacking in the USA. We try smaller classes, lower standards, more money on classroom accessories: nothing seems to work. We have gone backwards, and the slide continues. Parents are content to let their kids function this way, as, often, the parents don’t realize how minimal the education is. No one will take responsibility but prefers a government agency to “fix it”.
Richie
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Johnny William | August 8, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Americans are very dumb thanks to all those unionized highly paid joker “teachers.” the usa is filled with stupid people, stupid workers who terry nickell and dime everyone in their tracts. ask an american about mahler about stravinsky, about the horn, good luck—-most are too busy twattering, blueberrying, or watching the boob tube filled with idiotic “news” programs profiling pop star perverts, bra-sizes, and places to get good meadow muffins–that is the USA for ya. sinking ship……..
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Rich | August 9, 2009 at 11:30 am
One of the key problems in exchanging ideas is that you must make your idea clear to the other person(s). Too often, the other person simply doesn’t grasp my point because I haven’t made it clear enough, or they don’t have the background to understand my point. It’s not a matter of intelligence, but a matter of being able to communicate, which is a skill sadly lacking in society today. I consider, in my (to be completed someday) book about communicating with people, the first step is that each person must agree on what a word means. I consult a dictionary frequently, and a thesaurus. The word “pride” has a number of meanings, and one must not assume we all are using it to mean the same thing.
It’s not so much a matter of classroom education to be a better communicator; it’s like anything else: study, read, question, and practice. The internet chat rooms are a sad testament to the loss of communicative ability of so many people. It’s better to try to repeat back to the speaker the point he/she is trying to make, and see if you both agree on what the idea is, before you agree on the correctness of it.
Okay, that’s all for now.
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ben | August 12, 2009 at 7:00 am
you pose an interesting question. my question is whether it is Americans, or Aussies, or any other specific group of people that is just plain dumb, or if it is humanity by and large? we are all a bunch of babbling apes with more power than we know how to control. flashes of genius here, yes, and strokes of beauty there, true, but overall i think this says it best:
Picture a bright blue ball, just spinning, spinnin free,
Dizzy with eternity.
Paint it with a skin of sky,
Brush in some clouds and sea,
Call it home for you and me.
A peaceful place or so it looks from space,
A closer look reveals the human race.
Full of hope, full of grace
Is the human face,
But afraid we may lay our home to waste.
-from “Throwing Stones” by John Perry Barlow, as performed by the Grateful Dead
-ps i tried to post links and your blog would not let me… kept getting error messages e.g. that test above this
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Johnny William | August 14, 2009 at 4:48 pm
many americans are also very loud, very noisy–they seem to always to irate about something. Probably because they live to work. Crazy, many are work addicts and those boomers will never retire–a culture filled with greed and $$$$ obcessions.
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Johnny William | September 4, 2009 at 10:07 pm
americans are dumb until proven otherwise–dumb and dumberer.
america used to be 1st class country, thanks to bad schooling, illegal mexican problems, and lack of ethics/integrity–the country is a sinking ship. titanic.
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dillo | September 15, 2009 at 2:16 am
Yes, we are dumb! and loud!
But I have met some from OZ who may not have all their shrimps on the barbie. . .
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thinkingshift | September 17, 2009 at 12:14 am
Dillo: yes, don’t you worry about that! we have plenty of dumb ass types here in Australia too.
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Krishnamurthi | September 25, 2009 at 8:34 am
Why only Americans or Australians most of the World community is idiotic. Where is the Thoreau who refused to pay $10 to get his certificates from Harvard, Where is the Gandhi who refused all comforts for fellow citizens. Where is the Fukuoka who lived happily in his farm for 35 years without even electricity. How many such people the young come to know or we come to know ourselves
Of course, part of the problem is in Education. But there are other major parts such as the lack of common sense – Originally most of religions were about common sense such as ‘love thy neighbour’. Practice non-violence with all lifeforms, care for nature, etc. – Till 100 years back there was reverence to such teachings. Over the past 100s of so called scientific thinking all such teachings are rejected in the name of unscientific and irrational, etc.
Another part of the problem is disintegration of families. Even with integrated families no quality time is spent with the next generation.
And another critical part of is our obsession with looking good – whether it is communication or construction or the aesthetic (?) look of food and to war. So the best con-artists, corrupt politicians with good oratory skills, great marketing and PR agents, media all are their to deceive us all the time using our weakness for looking good
I quote here Will Durant – “Democracy means drift; it means permission given to each part of an organism to do just what it pleases; it means the lapse of coherence and interdependence, the enthronement of liberty and chaos. It means the worship of mediocrity and the hatred of excellence. It means the impossibility of great men—how could great men submit to the indignities and indecencies of an election? What chance would they have? What is hated by the people, as a wolf by the dogs, is the free spirit, the enemy of all fetters, the not-adorer, the man who is not a regular party-member. How can the superman arise in such a soil? And how can a nation become great when its greatest men lie unused, discouraged, perhaps unknown? Such a society loses character; imitation is horizontal instead of vertical—not the superior man but the majority man becomes the ideal and the model; everybody comes to resemble everybody else; even the sexes approximate—the men become women and the women become men”
- Will Durant
Business wants perfect human robots which won’t question the intentions yet carryout the orders well – which the schools /collages provide them with and no point in blaming them.
What are we doing at home and what are we doing ourselves matters a lot to create an intelligent society.
- Mumblings of a Farmer
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marcq | September 29, 2009 at 12:06 am
Unfortunately, your are 100% correct!
Americans apparently haven’t noticed that their country has slowly been disintegrating for the past decade as our government caters to Corporate America’s every whim.
If you try to point these facts out to most Americans, you’ll be ridiculed or labeled a socialist/communist.
Americans have had it easy for the past few decades since our economic dominance has shielded them from the need to be well-rounded and informed in order to earn a living, but this reality no longer exists.
If the younger generations don’t wake up and begin to demand more out of our politicians, we will have the living conditions of a third world country in a few decades.